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| * [[the Son is not the Spirit]] | * [[the Son is not the Spirit]] | ||
| * [[the Spirit is not the Father]] | * [[the Spirit is not the Father]] | ||
| - | * [[Father, Son and Spirit are composed of the same substance]] (substance) | + | * [[Father, Son and Spirit are composed of the same substance]] (ousia) |
| * [[the Spirit proceeds from the Father]] | * [[the Spirit proceeds from the Father]] | ||
| * [[God does not exist outside Father, Son, and Spirit]] | * [[God does not exist outside Father, Son, and Spirit]] | ||
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| === Notable Supporters of this Reasoning === | === Notable Supporters of this Reasoning === | ||
| - | [[wp> | + | St. Augustine |
| ==== Proofs ==== | ==== Proofs ==== | ||
| * [[God works in mutual indwelling]] | * [[God works in mutual indwelling]] | ||
| - | * [[if God works in perichoresis, then God's sole existence is compatible with the Father, Son, and Spirit all being God]] | + | * [[if God works in mutual indwelling, then God's sole existence is compatible with the Father, Son, and Spirit all being God]] |
| * If the above is true, [[only one God exists]] is compatible with the [[the Father is fully God]], [[the Son has always been fully God]], and [[the Spirit is fully God]] | * If the above is true, [[only one God exists]] is compatible with the [[the Father is fully God]], [[the Son has always been fully God]], and [[the Spirit is fully God]] | ||
| ∴ [[only one God exists]] is compatible with the [[the Father is fully God]], [[the Son has always been fully God]], and [[the Spirit is fully God]] | ∴ [[only one God exists]] is compatible with the [[the Father is fully God]], [[the Son has always been fully God]], and [[the Spirit is fully God]] | ||
| - | === Counter-Reasoning === | ||
| - | (In definition pages such as this, the counter-reasoning is kept on the page instead of relegated to a new page because the links don't work well otherwise) | ||
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| - | * [[only one God exists means that God is only one consciousness]] | ||
| - | * [[God being Father, Son, and Spirit means that there are three consciousnesses]] | ||
| - | * [[God cannot have both one and three consciousnesses]] | ||
| - | * If the above is true, [[only one God exists]] is incompatible with the [[the Father is fully God]], [[the Son has always been fully God]], and [[the Spirit is fully God]] | ||
| ===== Definitions ===== | ===== Definitions ===== | ||
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| ===== Analogies ===== | ===== Analogies ===== | ||
| + | ===== Notable Defenders of this Position ===== | ||