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| ==== Reasoning ==== | ==== Reasoning ==== | ||
| (Kalam) | (Kalam) | ||
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| + | * [[everything that exists has a cause of its existence]] | ||
| + | * [[the universe began to exist]] | ||
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| * [[the universe has a cause of its existence]] | * [[the universe has a cause of its existence]] | ||
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| ==== Reasoning ==== | ==== Reasoning ==== | ||
| (Sufficient Reason) | (Sufficient Reason) | ||
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| + | * [[everything that exists demands a reason]] | ||
| + | * [[the universe as a whole exists]] | ||
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| * [[the universe demands a reason for existing]] | * [[the universe demands a reason for existing]] | ||
| * [[the reason for its existence is God]] | * [[the reason for its existence is God]] | ||
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| * [[God exists as an idea in the mind]] | * [[God exists as an idea in the mind]] | ||
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| + | * [[If God exists merely as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than that which none greater can be imagined, God]] | ||
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| * [[If God exists as an idea in the mind, He must exist outside the mind]] | * [[If God exists as an idea in the mind, He must exist outside the mind]] | ||
| * [[a God existing outside the mind exists in reality]] | * [[a God existing outside the mind exists in reality]] | ||
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| ====== Counter-Statement ====== | ====== Counter-Statement ====== | ||
| - | [[x God exists]] | + | [[ | 
| ====== Talk ====== | ====== Talk ====== | ||