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 ∴ [[]] ∴ [[]]
  
-==== Notable Supporters ==== 
-[[wp>Nicene_Creed#Niceno-Constantinopolitan_Creed|Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed]] 
  
-===== Reasoning ===== +==== Definitions ====
- +
-  * [[Jesus could not fully save the elect from their sins if He had not always been fully God]] +
-  * [[Jesus fully saved the elect from their sins]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]]+
  
 +==== Analogies ====
  
 ==== Notable Supporters ==== ==== Notable Supporters ====
-[[wp>Athanasius]] +[[wp>Nicene_Creed#Niceno-Constantinopolitan_Creed|Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed]]
- +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus is an unique being]] +
-  * [[if Jesus is unique, the best way to understand Him as being divine]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus is eternal]] +
-  * [[if Jesus is eternal, He must have always been fully God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus is omniscient]] +
-  * [[if Jesus is omniscient, He must have always been fully God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
-===== Support ===== +
- +
-  * [[Many in Jesus' day claimed that He was God]] +
-  * [[Jesus did not refute any of their claims while on Earth]] +
-  * If the above is true, it is much more likely that [[]] +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus claimed to be God]] +
-  * [[if Jesus claimed to be God, either He is a liar, a lunatic, mistaken, or telling the truth]] +
-  * [[Jesus was not lying]] +
-  * [[Jesus was not crazy]] +
-  * [[Jesus was not mistaken]] +
-  * [[If Jesus was God then, He has always been God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
-==== Notable Supporters ==== +
-Lewis, C. S. Mere Christianity, 1952, 55-56. +
-FIXME this citation has not been verified to be accurate. +
- +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus claimed to be God]] +
-  * [[Jesus claimed His rising from the dead proves His identity]] +
-  * [[Jesus claimed His rising from the dead proved He was God]] +
-  * [[God raised Jesus from the dead]] +
-  * [[x God would raise Jesus from the dead unless He affirmed Jesus' claim that His rising from the dead proved He was God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Christians have unique abilities to perform miracles]] +
-  * [[if Christians have unique abilities to perform miracles, either Christians have unknowingly tapped into an abstract spiritual force or their God is identifying Himself with them]] +
-  * [[x Christians have unknowingly tapped into an abstract spiritual force]] +
-  * [[if God is identifying Himself with Christians, He is identifying Himself with Jesus]] +
-  * [[Jesus claimed to be God]] +
-  * [[if God identifies Himself with Jesus, He supports all of Jesus' claims]] +
-  * [[if Jesus is God, He has always been God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
- +
- +
-===== Reasoning ===== +
- +
-  * [[Jesus did things only God could do]] +
-  * [[if Jesus did things only God could do, He must have always been fully God]] +
-  * If the above is true, [[]] +
-∴ [[]] +
  
 ====== Counter-Statement ====== ====== Counter-Statement ======
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