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 ∴ [[]] ∴ [[]]
  
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-==== Definitions ==== 
- 
-==== Analogies ==== 
  
 ==== Notable Supporters ==== ==== Notable Supporters ====
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 ∴ [[]] ∴ [[]]
  
 +==== Notable Supporters ====
 +[[wp>Arius]] (cf. [[wp>Arianism]])
  
-==== Definitions ==== 
  
-==== Analogies ====+===== Reasoning ===== 
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 +  * [[adoptionism is true|Jesus was a human that God adopted to be Messiah]] (cf. [[wp>Adoptionism]]) 
 +  * [[If Jesus was a human that was adopted to be Messiah, then the Son is not fully God]] 
 +  * If the above is true, [[]] 
 +∴ [[]] 
  
 ==== Notable Supporters ==== ==== Notable Supporters ====
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 ===== Reasoning ===== ===== Reasoning =====
  
-  * [[Jesus was a human that God adopted to be Messiah]] (cf. [[wp>Adoptionism]]) +  * [[Jesus was a mere man]] 
-  * [[If Jesus was human that was adopted to be Messiah, then the Son is not fully God]]+  * [[a mere man cannot be God]]
   * If the above is true, [[]]   * If the above is true, [[]]
 ∴ [[]] ∴ [[]]
  
  
-==== Definitions ====+==== Notable Supporters ==== 
 +[[wp>Ebionites]] 
 + 
 +===== Reasoning ===== 
 + 
 +  * [[God is simple]] 
 +  * [[the Father is God]] 
 +  * [[the Father is unbegotten]] 
 +  * [[Jesus is begotten]] 
 +  * [[x God being both unbegotten and begotten accords with God's simplicity]] 
 +  * If the above is true, [[]] 
 +∴ [[]]
  
-==== Analogies ==== 
  
 ==== Notable Supporters ==== ==== Notable Supporters ====
-[[wp>Arius]] (cf. [[wp>Arianism]])+Opponents of [[wp>Gregory of Nazianzus]], //Theological Orations// #3
  
  
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 ====== Talk ====== ====== Talk ======
 +It seems there's two lines of reasoning here: those that disagree with the Son being fully God and those disagreeing that the Son has always been that way. Perhaps all the reasoning that affirm "x Jesus is God" should be moved under that statement, and then "x Jesus is God" could become a line of reasoning here.
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